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May 22, 2021 2:53:16 GMT
Post by Capybara on May 22, 2021 2:53:16 GMT
@frog - I mean I tried to get a social connection with you Frog but I didn't really feel like anything sparked. I feel like we really did use each other to further our own games and that was pretty much it. I didn't really find anything wrong with that though, we still worked together quite well and shared information. As probably apparent I would say I had similar relationships with other people I worked with. Maybe it's my personality I don't know.
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May 22, 2021 2:55:19 GMT
Post by Kestrel on May 22, 2021 2:55:19 GMT
Frog, I'll come back to that in the morning. Seal, I'll answer a few now and a few when I'm awake properly. 3) I enjoyed the art challenge, and sharing people's art afterwards. I enjoyed all the language/anagram challenges, and I enjoyed figuring out the logic puzzles in that super six run and think I did myself proud. I enjoyed the f4 challenge until it was broken, as I've played internet games like that before. In terms of sheer comraderie though, it was the maze challenge - typing 'i want to die' into a spreadsheet at the rest of the tribe was just one of those bonding moments!! 4) emotionally, the f7 round and it's fallout for sure. It also happened about the peak of this stupid sickness. It was the first time id voted out someone who I really cared about (lion) but absolutely had to do for the good of my game. I cried, and then they Decided to pm me a message that basically I was shit at the game and publicly threaten a fake idol to stay in. It /hurt/. And then, as bunny went home, I ended up staying up for a while...making sure lion felt better(?!)as they seemed genuinely emotionally off kilter. During this, I also had to tell eagle that I couldn't bring him to FTC, if I won fic, because he was a 'mighty eagle' and perception was everything. Like cat and capy have each other, it would've been nice to have a 'wingman' here. So, more tears. I also doubted his story for the first time all game, about when the bunny plan was hatched. Plus, I tried again to mold mine and capy's relationship into the kind I was used to, and got a very firm 'stay in your box, work colleague' response back, which now I'm at peace with and can see the value in, but at the time was a bit o.0. But on the plus side I was honest, and had some really good and worthwhile conversations with rat around this time. 5) cat. I've expanded on this in my response to snowy - I love a good social game, they refuse to be toxic or negative,have never been difficult to work with or talk to, and I care about them and am proud of them. I'd also like to shout out to capy, who has shown me a version of play that being this close to is new to me, but he's shown it works - you don't need to know details of people's job interviews, vacination status, where they are with their pile of marking, to have a good working relationship with them. And they do do the little things, like ask how I am with my sickness and stuff, which is actually an indication that they are a nice, genuine guy.
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May 22, 2021 2:56:59 GMT
Post by Kestrel on May 22, 2021 2:56:59 GMT
...what a fitting post to be pipped by! <3
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Post by Butterfly on May 22, 2021 3:49:50 GMT
Capybara, I'm not the only person who you just...stopped pming when you decided you were voting for them. How am I supposed to feel about that now, when I'm considering who to vote for?
Also, Kestrel and Cat, can you tell me just your general jury management philosophy? I know which of you I had the best connection with on my last day in the game, and I'd love to know more about how you did (or didn't) choose to place folks on the jury who will vote for you now.
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May 22, 2021 5:34:59 GMT
Post by Capybara on May 22, 2021 5:34:59 GMT
Hey Butterfly. Are you referring to Hedge with my lack of PMs? I was super busy that weekend and Hedge kinda put me over the edge when they said I was stonewalling them. I wasn't stonewalling them I had just been super busy and wasn't replying back to PMs in general. Regarding your specific case I will 100% own. I didn't reply back because I felt awkward talking to you about the vote knowing I was going to be voting you there. At that point in the game I didn't think I could trust you anymore since you targeted Frog with the tribe split. I did enjoy our conversations about random life things though, as an aside I really am enjoying Taskmaster still, actually introduced it to my family and we've been watching it together and I'd love to talk more about it post game.
Regarding your vote I completely understand if you hold that against me. I just didn't want to lie to you about something that I wasn't going to do.
I hope this helps, if you need any more clarification let me know!
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May 22, 2021 5:44:43 GMT
Post by Capybara on May 22, 2021 5:44:43 GMT
Thank you to all of those answers! For all 3 of you I have a few generic questions and then I'll probably not ask anything else: 1) Make me a meme of your most defining moment in the game 2) Name a moment or a conversation that has sparked the most joy in this game 3) What was your favourite challenge in this game? What was the most fun to do? 4) What was your lowest point in this game? 5) If this was a final 2 and you were on the Jury, who would you vote for between the 2 others and why? (Keep in mind I hate fake praise "This person was less shit") 1) The meme that I was thinking of when I took down Eagle 2) The moment that sparked the most joy for me was probably also with above, winning against Eagle. My adrenaline was pumping when I was playing that and realizing I was going to be in the final 3 finally sunk in, it's been a while since I've been in the final 3 in a Survivor. 3) I think my favorite challenge was the Animal Jigsaw Jam. I felt like our team worked really well together and I was proud of how well we did. The challenge itself was also very cool 4) The lowest point of my game was the first swap. I went from being in a place of power on Acquatica to being a target on Herbivora and it was scary. In my confessional I even titled a 'Catchin up with Cappy' episode as the finale until things finally turned on Sloth 5) If I were eliminated and it were a final 2 I would vote Cat here. They were my ride or die in Acquatica and out of loyalty I would have supported them.
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May 22, 2021 11:23:18 GMT
Post by Cat on May 22, 2021 11:23:18 GMT
Cat, you did well in managing to retain my trust despite refusing multiple times to actually solidify our relationship into something better than mutual respect. Was I always a eventual disposable number to you? I know you've mentioned you considered me a big threat in your speech, but as I was actually completely reliant on what turned out to be the F4 to potentially have my back there, I am not actually convinced that this was the reasoning you were getting rid of me. and generalisered question for everyone. Did you exploit anybody else's social weaknesses or mistakes? Hi Frog! I feel that our relationship personally had the most up and down for me. In Aquatica, I did enjoy talking to you but it never seemed like you wanted a more solid relationship from me. I didn't initiate at that point because even then, I think everyone identified you as a deep thinker and strong player that needed to be taken out. It was truly unfortunate how many times we lost on that tribe and if Axolotl hadn't been so absent, you would've been voted off. I knew this and couldn't offer you an alliance because you deserved more than a sham alliance from me. I honestly didn't even know how you would feel when seeing me again. Unlike Capybara, who I was overjoyed to see, I knew we didn't have an alliance in place and you could've made more meaningful connections while you were in Herbivora. It made me trust you a lot to see that you were working with Capybara and that you decided to help Leopard Seal despite your Herbivora connections. I could never get a good read on you. When we went into the food chain challenge, I was actually very hurt that you ate me first when it seemed like you could've eaten anyone else. At this point I considered you someone I was working with quite closely with even though we didn't have an alliance in place. Of the Aquatica, you were definitely the most feared and I knew that there ultimately couldn't be a future for us in FTC. The fact that you ate me in the first round also spoke to me that you were always going to look after your own benefit instead of our benefit. For your second Q: I think it's fair to say that I exploited your social weaknesses. When you told me that the Leopard Seal vote burned a lot of bridges you had, I didn't think you would vote against me. I needed you to help vote out Butterfly and then to vote you off while raising the least amount of suspicion from you since a failed attempt against you would have been devastating.
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May 22, 2021 11:31:22 GMT
Post by Cat on May 22, 2021 11:31:22 GMT
Also, Kestrel and Cat, can you tell me just your general jury management philosophy? I know which of you I had the best connection with on my last day in the game, and I'd love to know more about how you did (or didn't) choose to place folks on the jury who will vote for you now. Hi Butterfly! I genuinely wanted to not have strife with people leaving. Getting emotionally attached is something I really had to work on. Even in my first vote against a very absent Shark, I started to feel really bad about it. In the case of your vote, I felt that our cards never aligned after the Leopard Seal vote. I so appreciated that we were able to talk things through after the first time I voted for you. For most of the game I don't think I was seen as having a big impact on the vote so I feel this also led to being able to have good last messages with several people. I touched on this briefly in Owl's question, but I'm sure that perception changed throughout the jury but it wasn't something I could actively focus on. Later on, I think this desire to avoid conflict wasn't the best choice for jury management. I wasn't honest with Rat and stuff with Bunny was happening so fast that I wasn't able to talk to them about it in fear that it wouldn't work and they would still be here. I felt things were tense with Lion and I really didn't see how engaging further would help my case at all.
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May 22, 2021 11:46:58 GMT
Post by Cat on May 22, 2021 11:46:58 GMT
Thank you to all of those answers! For all 3 of you I have a few generic questions and then I'll probably not ask anything else: 1) Make me a meme of your most defining moment in the game 2) Name a moment or a conversation that has sparked the most joy in this game 3) What was your favourite challenge in this game? What was the most fun to do? 4) What was your lowest point in this game? 5) If this was a final 2 and you were on the Jury, who would you vote for between the 2 others and why? (Keep in mind I hate fake praise "This person was less shit") 1) While I didn't make this meme, I think it encapsulates how I felt. I don't think I had one singular defining moment but many small moments of managing my own emotions and not blowing up at people. Even when Hedgehog was yelling at me, I apologized for "falling into a conspiracy theory." While I privately stewed about a lot of things, I had to keep my chipper exterior. When you were voted out, I apologized to Butterfly, told Owl and Sloth it was okay and that I respected their decision, etc. Internally I didn't want to do any of this but I knew my social game was everything. 2) I didn't expect so many life things to be happening while I was playing this game! After almost a year of searching for jobs, I finally landed my dream job. It was a really joyful thing to share the process of this with my internet friends. I honestly really loved chatting and getting to know everyone more. I loved talking to Eagle in the unique way he speaks, I loved sharing music with Lion and Hedgehog, I enjoyed hearing about Capybara's volleyball (this was so endearing to me for some reason). I had so much fun talking to you about different games and I liked talking to Flapjack Octopus and Capybara about Wandavision. I know that's many moments but the social aspect also came much more naturally to me because I genuinely liked learning more about you all. 3) Hahah you're going to laugh, but I actually had so much fun on that endurance challenge for Aquatica. You were such a good spreadsheet captain and we should've won that challenge!! It was a challenge that I could do without practicing for hours before hand. 4) The lowest point of the game was when you were voted out. Hedgehog had not yet been idoled and I felt hurt by my supposed allies in Eagle, Kestrel, Sloth, Owl. I know that voting Butterfly did not align with their interests but it was hard not to take your exit a bit personally. 5) I have the utmost respect for both players. Capybara has been a comforting presence for me and someone who I had a great relationship with since the beginning. They got out of many tight spots and I would not be here without them. I do think I would have to vote for Kestrel because there are so many things I didn't know about them until now! I think they played a really great game as the information hub and connected with people I wasn't really able to. They really did have a lot more options for FTC than I did.
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May 22, 2021 20:46:50 GMT
Post by Kestrel on May 22, 2021 20:46:50 GMT
Seal,
I'm phone posting and super sick, so imagine I'd drawn my avatar with 'who me' on it? I feel it's a really good encapsulation of my play
In terms of joy, early on it was memeing with moth about me saying 'exactly' to paragraphs he sent me - I said it a lot because I agreed with his game views so often!
With chickadee, it was this pm from them about what else they could've chosen - 'sand cats don't have to drink water to survive! they get by on the moisture of their prey. and, they leave virtually no tracks.'.
With elephant it was music..'love will find a waaaaa-aaay'.
With snowy it was being upfront about moths game playing. With butterfly it was either talking about not knowing how to decorate a house, or how chill they were about the fitness challenge.
You, I loved the clocktower stuff and I'd still really like to do that post game, if you'll have me? Sloth was talking about the history of words, old English was not what I expected to be talking about. Rat and lion were things like podcasts, and lion talking about social work and rat with our only sane man conversations. Genet talking about Passover. Hedgehog and music, like cat said. Eagle....the triangles. The yoga, the fish. Frog talking about politics and things like high speed railways. Bunny for those chats late night after deadline where we clung to each other. Cat for just being the easiest person to work with. Capy for remembering to ask about my never ending sickness! Just so many good conversations.
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May 22, 2021 20:56:49 GMT
Post by Kestrel on May 22, 2021 20:56:49 GMT
I think since now that of you managed to take on the villain role I wanted to vote for to win this (although my expectations after my exit were that only Eagle actually had a chance of that, so I shouldn't really be surprised), I will have to try to again with trying to work out how to actually split you apart in some manner. Krestel I mentioned to you at some point that your game was really similar to Cats. I believe this still holds true with both of you playing UTR games and being aware of where every vote was heading, and probably every opinion held by everyone else. You also mentioned to me at the start of merge that I was your favourite person out of people you were meeting for the first time. Did this statement hold true and give us an actual potential to work together, or was your plan all along to take out all of you were meeting for the first time asap? Cat, you did well in managing to retain my trust despite refusing multiple times to actually solidify our relationship into something better than mutual respect. Was I always a eventual disposable number to you? I know you've mentioned you considered me a big threat in your speech, but as I was actually completely reliant on what turned out to be the F4 to potentially have my back there, I am not actually convinced that this was the reasoning you were getting rid of me. Capybara, I don't think I have anything for you here, as while you might have managed to have the largest amount of messages in my inbox, I did not feel any actual social connection with you, but aligned out of strategy purposes given the minority we found ourselves in after the first swap. You need to somehow convince me you did actually have social connections with others and that I have in fact underestimated your ability, which I presumably have given you're sitting there at FTC. Right now all I can point to you is structural with how you dealt with those double votes you obtained. and generalisered question for everyone. Did you exploit anybody else's social weaknesses or mistakes? Yes, that was true..I've talked a bit about finding you to be a wild card (after I asked where your head was at with me and you replied like an a.i..about friend kestrel, it did make me giggle) and I think I should've found more distance from you early on, especially as you weren't subtle about things like how heavily you thought about the game,.or throwing capy and seals acorn/advantage prowess at me as a kind of distraction? But I found that I wrote you the longest PM's of anyone, apart from perhaps eagle. I couldn't help but like you even though I was wary of you and I knew that long term we couldn't work out - especially after you sent me that pm about people using my name to get out of voting bunny, which was weirdly threatening!! I didn't have a 'master plan' to remove everyone who was new to Me, although that did basically happen (I would have probably voted hedgehog out in eagle's position, for example). A world where I started with you and like...sloth, for example, would've been fun.. In terms of other people's weaknesses, I'm not here to slag people off. I think it's easy to pick up on what people are saying about people (that bunny was vague and manipulative after the picked tribes, that frog was crazy, etc.,) And use it to steer a vote, without denouncing their play or becoming negative or mean.
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May 22, 2021 21:04:49 GMT
Post by Kestrel on May 22, 2021 21:04:49 GMT
Capybara, I'm not the only person who you just...stopped pming when you decided you were voting for them. How am I supposed to feel about that now, when I'm considering who to vote for? Also, Kestrel and Cat, can you tell me just your general jury management philosophy? I know which of you I had the best connection with on my last day in the game, and I'd love to know more about how you did (or didn't) choose to place folks on the jury who will vote for you now. My approach to jury management was at best inconsistent - some people I was very avoidant with to avoid conflict, some votes I noped out of to avoid the mess of names being flung around everywhere and how stressed that made me (yours and snowys votes were like this), some votes I did explain myself to (rat and lion). Some of it was to avoid conflict, some to avoid confusion (the first few votes of merge had some truly chaotic plans happening and still led to the person I thought was going home at the start of the round going home, going home, after all that stress, like the ele round too?). Some was to avoid being awake at 2am. I also didn't want to be in a situation where I lied, got involved in another round of names being chucked around and would end up being portrayed incorrectly, as I feel happened to cat around the time you went home. I find the concept of jury management really odd and I don't want to be fake - there's very few ways you can present 'sorry, not sorry, byeee". However!!! I don't ever feel like I've been successfully jury managed, personally, so maybe some of it is also just preference..you know when your inbox goes cold that the end is nigh. The most I want is one dedicated mate to tell me it's me.
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May 22, 2021 21:23:44 GMT
Post by Leopard Seal on May 22, 2021 21:23:44 GMT
Thank you everyone for the answers, I think I know who I'm voting for but it's tough and close!
Sidenote to Kestrel. I'd love for you to come play Clocktower after this, I have posted in my confessional a post about Clocktower including the discord server I play on, please come and check it out afterwards
Also lol I'm glad I'm not the only one brave enough to talk politics with Frog xD
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May 22, 2021 21:42:21 GMT
Post by Kestrel on May 22, 2021 21:42:21 GMT
I've enjoyed your questions and I absolutely will. Did you talk about nationalising the internet? High speed railways? I'm so boring
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Post by Leopard Seal on May 22, 2021 21:47:21 GMT
Oh no, we went for the risky topics of Brexit hahaha
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