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Post by Hermit Crab on May 16, 2021 1:11:33 GMT
Thank you for finding allowing read access to the animalia tribe. I am not sure if I'm happy to learn I was basically just a "challenge" threat though. I thought I still had strategic and social threat levels up some level. However much social capital I wasted in the early merge. Sorry, I forgot you didn't have it because in order to keep the players in the dark we used the Endangered usergroup for both Jury and EoE and obviously we couldn't have EoE looking in on the game. I forgot to set up the perms for the Extinct in the Wild group and nobody told me there was a problem until earlier today.
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Post by Frog on May 16, 2021 1:29:12 GMT
I mentioned it in the first post of this thread!
But yeah I guess I never directly actually told you about it.
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Post by Frog on May 16, 2021 1:32:38 GMT
And the fact that predatora is the only defunct tribe I can see. I left it previously on the assumption you didn't suddenly want some people to be seen as browsing the tribe forum when no previousl assumed jurors were there, and then EoE ended so it was a matter of time for you to fix the permissions I guess.
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Post by Frog on May 16, 2021 1:45:38 GMT
Eagle stole what should have been my joke! Extremely hard to not press submit on this in the challenge thread btw.
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Post by Frog on May 17, 2021 22:33:49 GMT
And the frog remains lost.
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Post by Frog on May 18, 2021 1:59:14 GMT
I would like to report that I have now been found Very much a pity about the betty hock softball thing. I would otherwise also be stuck there.
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Post by Frog on May 18, 2021 22:24:12 GMT
I guess it's good I'm not in the game and having to do firemaking. It would probably be delayed even more as I seem to have ended up on even more day shifts.
Can I just go back to semipermanent afternoons like I had? Or actually put me on a rotating schedule between them all out week?
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Post by Frog on May 20, 2021 8:56:20 GMT
So based on talks in the jury forum so far
Kestrel & Cat are basically equal social I liked both of them a lot when I first met them, and then they died off. That might just be my own social skills at work though?
Capybara has probably does the best Structural? Double Double votes seems like it ought to fit there anyway.
So the lynchpin between where my vote goes is going to be the strategic aspect.
I mean I already knew this, but seeing as this game is going the triple S approach to the three outs in final tribal council. (really I shouldn't be been surprised by this, seeing as firemaking was also forced). But given I don't actually like that new tribal council design or firemaking being forced as some of the more recent survivor twists, it helps me to forget that they are a thing. I think I end up snoozing during all real survivor FTCs anyway, the structure change itself didn't really improve matters.
But now I need to work out what I'm meant to ask for in terms of social anyway! Something there might be able to give a win in it to either cat or kestrel. The only thing I see fitting this category is the gif question, and I'm not going to be the one to be asking that.
Find the acorn is obviously structural.
I'll answer the Whenisgood when/if I find out what shifts I have for next week, hopefully tomorrow. I assume me being in a vastly different timezone means I don't really have much say for the live reveal anyway.
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Post by Frog on May 21, 2021 14:18:37 GMT
I think I'm going to end up going over the 4 digits exactly mark. As I'm making this post here, and will potentially do others during this questioning time.
Kestrel had the best opening speech by far. (Although given they are probably bellaphant, I'm not overly surprised - I just hope they're confessional is better than the last game they won)
Other points I need to make/remember. Cat shut down my advances for making an official alliance with me on Aquatica. I was Kestrel's "favourite" new person at merge. I think that actually held true based on information. Capybara is lucky he found that double vote and I started playing hard on Herbivora. Him having those double votes is still basically the only thing he got going for him.
I will potentially still be available on Wednesday/Thursday evenings for the live reveal, I just don't have confirmed shifts on this dates yet, so I can't commit to being around on those dates. I really hope we're not going to be stuck waiting until Saturday for it. Makes most sense to have it be at a time favourite to all three finalists though.
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Post by Frog on May 21, 2021 19:12:13 GMT
Eww at all three playing the 'hero' card. I don't want to vote any of them.
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Post by Frog on May 22, 2021 0:15:22 GMT
Let's see if a rephrasing of the question in the social category can get an acceptable answer to my question.
I feel like that set I just did were aiming at my vote going towards Cat.
Probably will be my last bunch of questions though.
Still waiting on Lion and Butterfly to decide to give input. At least Butterfly has at least logged in again?
But I think Lion basically ended up in the same position as me, generally considered a threat, and nobody actually wanting to work with them. I guess I need to go back to my goat roots for my next play of survivor. Going big or going home was fun, even if I did actually need that immunity way back in challenge 4! I mean I knew I did need that one back then, I just somehow managed to forget it once I started trying to save Seal's life for dumb reasons.
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Post by Frog on May 22, 2021 2:35:58 GMT
I just when through all my previous confessional threads. Pretty sure I actually documented everything that was leading towards my downfall in them. But somehow I also managed to write them all off as paranoia and forget about all that information when the time came around.
I think that was work schedules doing me dirty, as real life certainly distracted me a lot, so everyday was new paranoia.
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Post by Frog on May 22, 2021 2:38:01 GMT
I am also laughing at me telling Polar Bear to pick cat as her favourite in episode 1. Now I almost feel obliged to vote Cat to win!
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Post by Frog on May 22, 2021 4:02:26 GMT
I don't actually think I once called Capybara a Gamebot. So he still has social game somewhere, just as Kestrel mentioned, a vastly different social game to what I know as "the social game". I can't even rule him out for getting my vote. Right now I feel like I'm trying to consider what all their individual games actually were, because obviously they were not actually in my pocket.
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Post by Frog on May 22, 2021 4:37:00 GMT
I'm in my head, trying to piece together what moves actually benefited them. Ignoring the returnee, because that was never changing unless whoever it was that came back was able to win that immunity. I'm pretty sure the real EoE people had to do the same thing. (Well besides them being given an idol for some reason).
Seal going hurt Cat the most. But that was known, and the pair of them needed broken up at some stage anyway because every tribe together is not a thing that can last. So actually beneficial to Cat's game. Krestel knew them on Carnivora, that is a tribe I basically ignored as a whole, and I paid for it. Them and their stupid easy votes. Probably beneficial to Kestrel's game, as it pulled Cat into going solid RECK. Capybara knew Seal on Aquatica. Probably actually beneficial for him as well. Would have been him going had seal/him swapped who won immunity? Very likely. Having the second double vote was beyond my control.
Sloth. I don't feel like he was at that point useful to anybody's game. If he survived longer he'd likely be in a goat position for someone.
Hedgehog. Most useful for Cat's game. I believe I understood this when that's the approach I went with at this tribal. That tribe was not good for me under any circumstances. Kestrel also indirectly benefitted from the removal of someone they had only just met at the merge. This vote locked the me/capybara relationship into place. Beneficial for Capy in that regard, as I would take the credit and increase my overall spotlight.
Owl. Most beneficial for Kestrel. Capybara takes second place here? I'm not entirely sure. Not the greatest result for Cat.
Butterfly. This time Cat benefits the most from someone they hadn't met prior to merge, and had previously attempted to get out. Capybara is also a general beneficiary having also voted them during the seal vote. I think Kestrel probably also benefits from this, as it was another removal of someone I might have been able to work with. (Frog did not benefit at all from butterfly going)
Frog. Most useful to Kestrel. I was coming for them soontm. Also great for Cat, as she moved away from Aquatica. Not actually at all beneficial for Capybara. A move he needed to make yes, but F8 is too soon to lose your shield.
Bunny. Most benefit here guess to Capybara. Mostly because really he should have followed me out the door. This is his move of the game that got him to the end. But a great result for Kestrel. Cat remained neutral.
Lion. No real benefits for anybody here, it's another move that had to be made at some stage, standings don't move around for it happening there.
Rat. Biggest benefit goes to Capy? He wasn't going to get voted out from that point onwards. Kestrel benefits slightly by increasing her odds of winning challenges. Cat is mutual with this result, she is locked into her F3 she attempted earlier.
Eagle. Again everyone benefits from this move. Eagle was most likely to receive my vote if he reached FTC against anybody. Kestrel probably benefits the most from this exit given their closeness - see right time to get rid of your shield! Maybe actually a little late, but he had immunity at both F5s. Cat would have benefited from removing him earlier as well, although probably would have put herself more at risk. Capy gets the most out of the elimination order after I went.
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