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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 7:30:57 GMT
The spectators cannot see this forum. We encourage you to make one "This is my Ponderosa" message in your confessional, and then in 24 hours access to that will go away for the specs too. Eww, losing spectator access already? You're ruining my livelihood! No wonder Butterfly hasn't bothered logging in after they got sent to jury. Reminds me of when I did actually play AuSVivor (the first time), I was surprised to see no spectators come visit me in my confessional there, I thin kI might have seen that they existed, but apparently all they had to go on was what was written in public for what was actually happening in the game. (and someone attempting to compile the confessionals into an episode as it went). But you know what is worse than spectators losing access to here. Jury not being able to see anything about what is actually happening in the game. You might have locked us up in some "zoo", but install a television or something! and no I'm making an entire thread about this, I have a lot to unpack.
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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 7:48:54 GMT
Cat is a social threat? I wish they had showed me that instead of just.... well, being complacent with everything. I figured Capy was the only person they were outplaying in any way. Now if Cat proves to me somehow that they used me/bunny to fight each other as we are both gone now, then I would believe them but I'm not going to say anything in case it wasn't anything they influenced. That being said, if you do make it back my recommendation would be to reach F3 with Cat/Capy but everyone probably has different things that they value and who knows what the people still in the game think. I can only speak for Sloth/Butterfly here and what little I heard in chats. Hmm yeah... Bunny even finally reached out to me about the vote and assumes the vote is between you/hedgehog. That would be too bad because Hedgehog paired with Sloth/Myself pretty early just to ensure we can decide what happens. I think I can beat both of them and even if I couldn't beat Sloth, not sure I would want to vote them out because they have the same chance as me. Sloth was convinced to vote Seal out instead of hedgehog last time so if you can appeal to him, then I would respect the decision but from my perspective, voting you is my best chance to return. I don't know why I'm bringing this entire PM in here. Like I never bothered replying to it in the first place, but I think this is a good place to start getting out my actual thoughts. Cat and Kestrel have both done an extremely good UTR game. They might have been able to actually become targets if Bunny had actually used his voice at all after that F13. I'd have been trying to go to F3 with Capy/Rat, getting to the end based on immunity runs means Rat should also have been beatable, as nobody rewards that on MS. Snowy Owl has zero chance of earning my vote after this nonsense about just protecting Hedgehog through some dumb deal they made early. That is exactly why I hate this kind of twist, as I mentioned in my last thread. They clearly took Butterfly out in the same manner. Thank you for at least acknowledging the truth of the matter, why the fuck shouldn't you actually just say that to begin with? There is zero reason to play with my feelings. I've been public that I am okay with actually going to the jury, If I was going to force you into also eliminating Bunny, I'd have quit there and then after I failed to win that immunity challenge. But as it stood, Bunny is the only player on EoE with any significant chance of being able to win my jury vote. Even if they were going against me for that vote. Assuming Rat goes there now he's lost immunity, and well they've lost their best chance at having someone that wasn't otherwise in F5 make it to F5. But I guess Seal was the only one that actually wanted someone from EoE to still win.
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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 7:54:54 GMT
This one is getting trimmed [quote author=" Three-toed Sloth" timestamp="1620721524"I feel like I'm still young enough that I can play with my heart rather than my head; I'd rather Hedgehog went of the two. Yes it hurts my winning chances, but realistically they're slim to none anyway considering I've been dead for ages. I'll talk to Snowy and see about voting Hedgehog, alright?[/quote] Why are you bothering to talk to Snowy about it though - you actually don't need to vote with them...? That's clearly not good. Give me back my immunity you thief! stupid paragraph of text I never read. Would have liked some confirmation from Sloth as well that they were actually voting me. But I haven't ruled out voting him completely if he were to somehow make it to the end.
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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 8:01:35 GMT
I trust you when you say you want the person with the best chance of winning getting out of here, and I *know* that person isn't Snowy Owl. IMO the only way to get to FTC for any of us will be to win a challenge at F5. The two of us are the best at challenges of the people here, so I think it must be one of the two of us to get out. Did I actually say that? I guess I probably did, or lat least I said I'd be voting him back into the game if it was a final vote. But yeah I think we had to basically go with each other, so it makes it all the more disappointing Lion couldn't stick around longer. But really, all I was after was whoever was most likely to break up the group that betrayed me. I wanted to be vengeful. Winning the game was irreverent. Hedgehog might have also gone out to a double vote, but they snowed themselves under with their reaction to conspiracy imo. and the fact I wanted her out on Herbivora? Yeah that's a thing that actually happened there I don't have a quote to bother bringing here from Hedgehog. I knew where they stood on me. I should have been pushing for her elimination on the flappy bird tie break vote, but after it was revealed that Seal actually did cause half of my problems, I didn't care about either of them.
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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 8:20:25 GMT
Okay so anyway, did I achieve my goals this game?
I used an idol to nullify a vote cast against me. I made Merge and Jury. Won an individual Immunity Challenge (two if I count the one that happened during the tribe phase) Had a large group I considered to be allies. Controlled a few votes. Got blindsided? Maybe, it just happened earlier than I expected, but it was coming. Got Voted out because of my timezone. Or at least last weeks run of day shifts meant I couldn't scramble how I wanted to very well. that's more work schedule problems than timezone, but I'll take it! I only ran into having to work nights once during the game, but a bunch of afternoons, or if I was in a more american timezone, I'd probably have actually been worse off Ended up working the majority of the time during my vote out of EoE as well. (I think I had a total of 3 hours during that EoE tribal where I wasn't at work, getting ready for work or sleeping)
I don't remember if I included anything else in my application of aims for this game.
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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 8:22:18 GMT
I did have fun though.
Even in my moments of misery as I knew I was doomed to end up dying.
Fun was had. That is the most important thing.
and I guess I failed Alpha-7, seeing as I started working for them at some stage. Because I found out that according to eagle they were the bad guys. But I'm no baddie.
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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 8:35:49 GMT
Where I went wrong in this game?
Probably loyalty. Drawing the Lion at Food Chain, and refusing to vote anybody that I was the cause of the why they were not able to win immunity. This made me really want to keep Seal around, even though I knew he was the easiest choice to get rid of
Me just accepting that as I should have would have kept my drama levels from skyrocketing, and I'd have been able to actually play relatively undercover.
I was still a big name as I took control of Herbivora to save Capybara, and who knows how much control I did actually have on Aquatica. I could have probably got away with eliminating someone else then. Arthropoda was a problem having not met anybody knew there, except when Dog game by for a visit. The fact we spent a week o nthe tribe and weren't actually able to try to all stick together once merge hit was just problematic in itself. Carnivora ending up with two people quitting meant I reached merge with no real idea of where anybody was going to stabd.
So I burned my social capital early.
and then I went and blew away some of my must win challenges. But was I ever really a threat if I actually needed those challenges to survive? I picked up F10, which was probably needed, but I had an advantage for F8, and blew it on the wrong solution. If only we had actually been able to do that live, I think I'd have been able to pick up on others doing things, but the spectators weren't ever up to that task.
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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 8:56:19 GMT
My vote is probably leaning somewhere in the Eagle/Cat/Kestrel group.
I half hope thy all make FTC, so I can be convinced by their speeches. But I feel like in that case Eagle takes it for having the more unique game.
Also the fact Eagle is the last "Big Threat" standing.
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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 9:04:15 GMT
I'm still disappointed that I assume I'll be considered as placing 10th when I had immunity at F10. Almost completely pointless that I bothered getting that immunity. I'd potentially still be in EoE if I'd gotten voted out earlier!
Stupid Twist. Remind me to not play more advanced level games.
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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 9:05:11 GMT
(I still will, usually I don't have the opportunity to be bitter about it)
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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 9:05:55 GMT
And I guess I'd never actually finished 10th before in a game. I have finished 8th before though.
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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 9:36:23 GMT
Capybara probably isn't in consideration for my vote, afaik he wasn't even part of eliminating me. He if he was, it was done at a poor time imo
Rat is out because the only thing I know he's done was receive an advantage from a stupid Twist and that went against me as I wanted to take him out that round. And then a few immunities I'd have liked to have taken myself.
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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 11:03:34 GMT
I guess it's been so long since I've actually made it to jury, I've forgotten how boring it can get.
But I guess with half the jurors still doing EoE crap, there's not really much to go on.
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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 11:10:09 GMT
Also the fact that my timezone is still what it is and that makes me need to be awake at this time.
Why have they stolen me away from my good afternoon shift!
I think I just need to work out what else I actually want to be doing now.
This is normal when Survivor managed to take over my life.
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Post by Frog on May 12, 2021 12:11:15 GMT
I feel like this has actually hit me as lot harder than it should have.
I don't think it was just that I thought there would be still some cake left when I got home from work (there wasn't) that's made me annoyed tonight. I mean the computer taking 5 minutes to do anything never helps either, but having no control over a mistake in reading does still really hurt my moral.
They'd have voted out Bunny if I'd won immunity, so I'd still be pissed at the lack of thought going through the people in EoE. Would i behave differently had butterfly got me out at the F12 tribe split? Doesn't matter, because EoE will always remain a stupid twist, whether or not you do still get to face tribal councils.
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