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Post by Hermit Crab on May 13, 2021 1:01:10 GMT
Whether you raise the flag or fight to return, either way you won't be here long...
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Post by Rat on May 13, 2021 1:21:25 GMT
Ooof, was expecting a 3-2 not a 4-1. At least Capy and Eagle told me they were voting me, smh. I have an exam to study for tonight but I'll be sure to spill whatever info some time tomorrow. Good luck to all y'all in the challenge.
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Post by Snowy Owl on May 13, 2021 3:37:27 GMT
Good show Rat. You were one of my winner picks for a long time now. I still think you have a good shot now that you can get some jury insight before returning. I selfishily was hoping Kestrel would go instead of you just so we all had a better shot haha but C'est La Vie.
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Post by Hedgehog on May 13, 2021 15:37:15 GMT
Good show Rat. You were one of my winner picks for a long time now. I still think you have a good shot now that you can get some jury insight before returning. I selfishily was hoping Kestrel would go instead of you just so we all had a better shot haha but C'est La Vie. All of this.
Good luck!
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Post by Rat on May 13, 2021 19:27:40 GMT
Lol, thanks. Though I think I do have some apologies in order cause in hindsight a couple of the things I did were uh, not exactly smart in my eye. It hasn't been mentioned here so not sure anyone knew but I've had an alliance with Eagle, Kestrel and Cat since back on Carnivora, though it was more so me going "hey let's work together" and was pretty much me trying to have something outside of terrestria in case things went south. So yeah, when we were split into that tribe Snowy and Sloth were uh, yeah, pretty screwed. I don't think Sloth was 100% dead until he specifically said Kes and Cat were his main targets though. That's also why I kind of wrote you off Snowy, cause I frankly didn't want it to be true that either of them would betray that group.
And things were looking good until 7, since well, everyone in the game was either terrestria or that alliance sans Capy, though perhaps I might have bit the bullet at 8 without that gift snowy, so thanks.
So anyway, thoughts on who is still in the game.
Cat, I don't know, she's presented herself as either going along with Capy or going along with something Eagle suggested, but she's mostly just voted for people she wasn't getting along with. I also for some reason thought continually voting Capybara and telling her I was doing so would keep us good, which is not smart in hindsight. Still the last message I got was them telling me they were leaning Capybara, so I really would like an explanation as to why they never uh, updated that, like it's final 5, if I have an idol or something I'm playing it anyway and I'd much rather know why I'm getting voted out than not.
Capybara, I mean, just never been close to them. They're clearly close to Cat and have managed to have not one but two extra votes that were essential for swings (one of which I knew about on Tribe 3 and have been kicking myself for not saying more about to other people). They're pretty transparent, pretty much get what you paid for.
Kestrel is...I guess kind of floating. Every single vote have been them having no strong opinion, then being conflicted and then just...going with the majority, like at 6 they voted Lion because "they didn't want Cat to go rogue" when in a tie whoever we vote for likely goes in a revote. The one time this didn't happen was when the chaos with Bunny happened. They claimed to have advocated hard to keep me last round but still just joined in for a 4-1 which just confuses me. Like I'd think they'd at least try to give some explanation to me.
Eagle is just trying to get to the end. Everyone wants Eagle to not be at the end, my main pitch to keep me was so I could eliminate Eagle in firemaking cause I'll gladly just do more challenges. Kind of pretty sad about it all, Eagle was really cool on the middle tribes, and shared all sort of information, even let me win the merge challenge. ANd things just sort of deteriorated, partly cause of burnout on my part and just sort of...decided to do their own thing. Hoped we were connecting and stuff, and through talking through everything they really just care about the game. They also seem to have a very heavy separation of person and persona, telling me they didn't recognize the idea of "the person underneath" and were just playing as the Eagle. Which bums me out cause I like connecting with people in game, y'all seem cool at least. They also talked about how most of the merge they felt they were just walking on eggshells with people and how much they hated it, and I'm not sure they ever stopped or if they were doing that with me most of the time as well. Point is they've been impactful but I was one of their top allies according to them and I only see game. Very good if I come back to just remove them from the game, they know they pretty much need to win their way to end, main reason they gave for voting me off.
In hindsight I might have just tried to go for Cat on the split tribes, though obviously love to hear from Bunny on whether they would have been game.
Oh and Snowy most of the reasons I was given to suspect you was Eagle saying you were lying about votes and that you told Hedgehog that you were a Butterfly vote.
Anyone got any questions btw?
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Post by Snowy Owl on May 13, 2021 20:00:42 GMT
Cool good to feel validated that I never lied and everyone else was lying on my behalf
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Post by Bunny on May 13, 2021 20:02:43 GMT
I was 100% down to go after Cat on the split tribe. I assumed you/Kestrel weren't down and I didn't want to put all my hopes on Snowy/Sloth's relationship. I didn't realize they were so close until later.
I'd love if you could go into a little more detail about the "chaos with Bunny"
Lion went straight outta here and didn't explain what happened on that vote at all.
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Post by Rat on May 13, 2021 20:48:55 GMT
I was 100% down to go after Cat on the split tribe. I assumed you/Kestrel weren't down and I didn't want to put all my hopes on Snowy/Sloth's relationship. I didn't realize they were so close until later. I'd love if you could go into a little more detail about the "chaos with Bunny" Lion went straight outta here and didn't explain what happened on that vote at all. Yeah we weren't, but in hindsight I very much should have, would have changed a lot up later. But anyway, so the round was between Lion and Capy at the start, and well, I didn't want to vote Lion, I felt Capy was someone that took up a slot at the end and made it harder for any of us to get there, stuff you already know, yeah. So Early on day 2 the situation was that Eagle seemed to be on Capybara. Kestrel seemed to be very in the middle. Then late in the day Eagle about faces, they do it in this weird way, worrying about "cat going rogue" when they didn't really seem to worry about that at all before, and it's like 3 or 4 hours before deadline. Also around now Kes seems solidly on Lion, apparently they had an exchange where Lion insulted Kes' game or something, I never got much clarity on it. So I tell Lion about Eagle acting weird and I had gotten like...3 hours of sleep, my body was dead. I figure "okay I'll nap for an hour and we'll see where things are." This was the wrong round to do that. So as explained to me, that about face was because Eagle was gifted an extra vote by Capybara that I didn't know about, and I guess, didn't feel like voting them out and keeping it. Since Lion seemed aware of this change in demeanor, they surmised I told them about Eagle's change, which well I did. So Eagle decides they're voting Lion and Lion knows about it, and is claiming an idol, I'm immune, they're not going to after Cat or Kes, so...they decide to vote for you, they also for some reason thought your end game status was very similar to Capybara but I'm not sure I buy that. But you see there's a problem, they're very certain Kestrel will never in a million years vote you out, so they use the extra vote to make the vote 4-3-1 on you. Meanwhile that entire time, I was asleep. Sorry about that, I'm not sure I could have averted it but, it would have been a lot better if my body wasn't trash then.
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Post by Snowy Owl on May 13, 2021 20:53:03 GMT
That seemed like the most interesting round so far outside of maybe the idol round in Herb. I hope there are more stories like this scattered about that I'm unaware of.
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Post by Hedgehog on May 13, 2021 21:07:38 GMT
How about the fact that Lion and I knew about Sloth’s idol, and aimed him at Moth?
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Post by Snowy Owl on May 13, 2021 21:11:37 GMT
Unfortunately... I did the same I figured getting in with Sloth/Mongoose would be helpful and I wouldn't get pinned for eliminating Moth.
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Post by Snowy Owl on May 13, 2021 21:12:04 GMT
If it helps, I didn't know you knew about it too. I just didn't want people to know I knew lol.
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Post by Hedgehog on May 14, 2021 0:14:36 GMT
I felt exactly the same on all counts. Moth was a big bad threat waiting to happen, and they had a vendetta against Terrestria. If Sloth hadn't had an idol, I was prepared to let him go, but he did, so I nudged him towards an existential threat.
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