Kestrel
Animalia
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Post by Kestrel on May 2, 2021 1:38:01 GMT
Sorry, I have a big post in my head but I'm super sick, I'll try tomorrow
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Kestrel
Animalia
I hate this challenge
Posts: 387
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Post by Kestrel on May 2, 2021 18:11:41 GMT
So you know that point in the game where I doubt myself and hate my playstyle? We're here! Woe is Me, I'm not a threat, other people have better friends than Me, etc.
It's frog, he's been doing that thing where he's trying to pysch people out about endgame but I'm always so susceptible to negging
It doesn't help that rat is being super off with me while sharing loads of secret stuff with eagle (and I know this is a cue for me to lean more into my relationship with bunny, which I am doing, I'm being really open about this vote with them)
But like...a few rounds ago I was fine with being loved and not feared, I don't know what's changed.
Basically, I think I have to be selfish this vote and look at not being the bottom of a terra+butterfly group, which means voting butterfly, and then frog. I think I can pitch this to bunny well, and she seems to get it. It draws focus to me and eagle more than I'd maybe like, but then if eagle gets it drawn a little more then...that's probably a good thing before f7?
Ugh. I just wish butterfly had invested like 10% more effort in me, you know?
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Kestrel
Animalia
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Post by Kestrel on May 3, 2021 21:49:05 GMT
minutes agoQuoteMessage Options And why is it if I see if people would be willing to vote Bunny, the response somehow comes back to "I don't know if Kestrel would do that?". Can't people defend them without that knowledge?
From frog. Ugh. Ugh that it's happening, ugh that he's using it against me? Just ugh
Also, they are pretending (?) To not know butterfly self voted?
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Kestrel
Animalia
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Post by Kestrel on May 4, 2021 16:58:22 GMT
Both frog and rat have advantages to use this round - rat has safety without power, and frog has a challenge advantage.
FFS.
(Also, again, hello info.)
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Kestrel
Animalia
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Post by Kestrel on May 4, 2021 18:11:52 GMT
From bunny. (I'm not sure how I feel about them planning elaborate death scenarios for me)
I'm worried about F7 coming around and a desperate Capybara and Cat going to Eagle/Rat and begging them to "flip the script" on you. If their view is suddenly that you've been in control the whole time, and they're worried you+I will be harder to work with than Rat+Eagle (which is a totally reasonable concern for them to have because I believe we're more closely tied to Lion than them), I could see Cat+Capy making that pitch.
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Post by Bitter Poisonpie on May 6, 2021 0:40:11 GMT
Who do you want to go to FTC with?
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Kestrel
Animalia
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Post by Kestrel on May 6, 2021 19:44:01 GMT
Hellooo knebworth
It's f7 and people are starting to think that's kind of a big deal. I have to remember I got idoled out at 6 last time, and nothing is certain!!
Eagle has shown me his list of proposed f7s, which is basically a pictorial representation of a post I was going to make here
My response is:
"Yes. There are a few surface conclusions to bmake from that:
Our weakest connections on paper are rat, lion and capy We are always in them together We probably are in the most f4 combinations of anyone?"
*Kestrel ponders*
"Bunny is kinda refusing to discuss, and the most I've had from cat is their ideal f3 is /either/ you/me/them or you/me/capy."
*Kestrel frets at a tuft of grass*
" I am concerned. Why would so many people want us in an f4 together? Do they assume we'd destroy each other at f5, so get an easy ride? And what do we do next? I just see us pissinf everyone off until the end now."
*****
It's really hard because after capy I feel a genuine connection to everyone else? Which again is super rare - I can't imagine being upset booting tracer, or Aya, etc.
endgame potential:
Tier one: lion I understand that going to the end with lion is just a bad move for everyone - they are super likable and have made good, self aware plays
Tier two: Going with bunny is just...odd. I see them as similar a similar threat level to rat and cat? Bunny's problem is they've been too much of an enigma - I don't think anyone is 100% comfy wit them and it'll be hard to explain in FTC the merits of playing such a defensive game.
Cat is a social threat but hasn't done as well strategically as me. I know she isn't in the loop on a bunch of info and being tied to frog this long hurt
Rat was 100% top threat before merge but his activity level fell off a cliff and I think he has like...survivor burn out or something. He's had a fair bit of power on paper but isn't using it actively.
Tier three : Capy is just there. They'll be seen as being overshadowed by cat and frog no matter what.
If I'm not at FTC, then some of these ftcs are really interesting - who do you vote between rat, bunny and cat? It comes down to speeches and FTC!
In terms of my threat level, I'd honestly put myself tier 1.5 - but I'd also put eagle righr there too. It's my biggest problem right now - normally I'd be fine going to the end with my closest ally and bff because noone plays my version of the game as well as me. But he's done everything I've done, basically exactly how I've done it. Our stories are too similar.
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Post by Bitter Poisonpie on May 7, 2021 1:51:02 GMT
❖Questions❖ What is your best path to the end and what is the biggest obstacle in doing so? (sry you just answered a similar question) If you have time: how do you think other players would answer the previous question? Which extinct player was most impactful?
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Kestrel
Animalia
I hate this challenge
Posts: 387
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Post by Kestrel on May 7, 2021 17:12:06 GMT
Hiya @mods
I don't think this challenge is something I can do, with a toddler and a different time zone to everyone else. I'd either have to do it like 4pm UK time Tuesday, when my kid is in childcare and I'm not at work, or literally between 9-12pm any weekend night and hope I'm not going to be interrupted, which is unlikely.
I don't like being difficult but I also don't like doing challenges at midnight.
Is a stand in a possibility? I have a resident challenge beast....
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Post by Gray Wolf on May 7, 2021 17:20:49 GMT
noted.
can you fill out the when2meet anyway with any availability you have even if it's less than 3 hours?
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Algae
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Post by Algae on May 8, 2021 1:15:25 GMT
Hi Kestrel, you voted incorrectly that round and were the only one to vote for Lion. Do you know what happened? Do you feel betrayed by anyone?
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Kestrel
Animalia
I hate this challenge
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Post by Kestrel on May 8, 2021 1:33:03 GMT
Heheh nooo, looking like the Uninformed minority was kind of my idea.
The move to bunny was eagles idea. Me keeping my vote to look like more of a free agent, betrayed by the other three, was mine.
Now noone is mad at me, a bif threat is gone, I have options next round and a lion who owes me a favour as they tried to pressure me into becoming their goat just before deadline.
I don't believe eagle would've pulled the trigger on that without my assent. And I kinda can't believe I did it.
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Kestrel
Animalia
I hate this challenge
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Post by Kestrel on May 8, 2021 1:42:02 GMT
Lion seems to be very not ok.
I'm a tad concerned.
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Algae
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Post by Algae on May 8, 2021 1:55:50 GMT
Thank you for the insights!
What was your reason for consenting? Do you think Bunny leaving the game was better for you than Lion leaving would have been?
What is your ideal endgame at this point?
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Kestrel
Animalia
I hate this challenge
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Post by Kestrel on May 8, 2021 1:55:54 GMT
Or eagle could've been plotting it all along and is tricking me. But the end result is...the same? If he wants to feel he's got one over on Me, fine .
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